Recently this 'letter' was
brought to my attention, with all due respect to Mr. Thomas , who appears to be
a well respected academic, with a little research I found the following:
"Also
the following from a very prominent field ethnographer Robert K. Thomas:"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Saponi
1.
"All the Collins of Northeastern Tennessee, Southeastern Virginia, and
Eastern Kentucky are descendants of one household of Collins who resided in
Orange County, N.C. in 1760"
I think DNA Testing and genealogical research has proven this statement to be incorrect.
2. "By 1840, the situation became intolerable for some Indians in Southwest Virginia, and they began to head for Kentucky, a less repressive social and legal atmosphere. In the 1840’s, three Collins families moved into Kentuckey, into Letcher County.
Facts: The first of the mixed blood Collins' to move
into SE Kentucky was Meredith Collins, who appears on the 1810 Floyd Co
Kentucky US Census.
In 1820
the following Collins' show on the US census of Floyd Co. :
William COLLINS, Edward COLLINS, Reuben COLINS, Bradley COLLINS, George COLLINS, James COLLINS, Jeremiah COLLINS, Meridith COLLINS and Valentine COLLINS.
Letcher
County was formed in 1842 from portions of Harlan and Perry Counties.
3."
In the 1850’s, two Collins families moved to Johnson County, just south of
Paintsville (Grandpap William Collins and brother). {Frankie’s note here: This
is where my 2nd great grandparents Griffin and Rachael Collins went also, and
were listed as Mulatto on Johnson County census records}
Fact: On the 1850 Johnson Co. Kentucky US census (The first for this county) there are 48 Collins' listed. This "Grandpap William Collins" is NOT one of them.
Here are
the 3 William COLLINS listed:
383
William COLLINS age 20, son of Joshua COLLINS and Elizabeth COLLINS nee DALE
330
William H. COLLINS new born, son of
Issac COLLINS and Nancy COLLINS nee BLACK
502
William W. COLLINS age 17 son of Christopher COLLINS and Cynthia COLLINS nee
SPEARS
On the
1860 Johnson Co. Kentucky US census, the same 3 William COLLINS' are still on
the Census, with the addition of a 4th:
435 William H COLLINS age 5 son of Elijah COLLINS and Nancy J COLLINS nee RATLIFF
1870
Johnson Co. Kentucky US census:
45
William P COLLINS age 7 son of Wiley M COLLINS and Eilza Jane COLLINS nee MUSIC
110
William COLLINS age 42 ( son of Joshua COLLINS and Elizabeth COLLINS nee DALE )
35 William H COLLINS age 15 ( son of Elijah COLLINS and Nancy J COLLINS nee RATLIFF)
Griiffin
COLLINS doesn't appear on the Census of Johnson Co KY until 1880 and is this
Griffin COLLINS:
"Griffin COLLINS was born 1835 in Grainger Co Tennessee. He married (1) Rachel Ann COLLINS March 17, 1858. He married (2) Margaret MILAM 1878."
But he is not with Rachel Ann COLLINS, but with his second wife Margaret MILAM
376
Griffin COLLINS age 44,
Margaret (MILUM) age 28 ( m 11 Feb 1880)
They are not marked as Mulatto, but as white. The only Collins' marked as Mulatto are decsendents of Valentine COLLINS in 1880 Johnson Co. KY US census.
Back to
'Grandpa William Collins', could he be this William Collins, Son of Griffin
and Rachel COLLINS ? :
William Sherman COLLINS was born January 30, 1868 in Wise Co Va, and died April 11, 1951 in Floyd County, Kentucky. He married Louisa Bowlin December 15, 1888 in Floyd County, Kentucky, daughter of Daniel BOWLIN and Fanny HALBERT.
If so,
he never is shown to have lived in Johnson County , Kentucky, for sure not in
1850 as he wasn't born until 1868.
Moral of
the story ? As my Father used to tell me "Don't believe everything you
read" And just because a person is labeled 'prominent' whether a field
ethnographer or Anthropologist, or what ever, doesn't mean they don't have faulty research. I guess it's up to the
individual researcher to check out all 'facts' for themselves.
Submitted by Don Collins
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